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EMAK
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 10:08 pm    Post subject: Warfarin Reply with quote

Please I found this:

If a woman on warfarin starts to labour, CS will be the preferred mode of delivery....True....

Is that really true?..and how?? Exclamation Exclamation
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Difficult.
From what i know warfarin is only indicated in pregnancy in women with prosthetic valves and this is not an indication for a C/S. Steps you would take if goes into labour are a. stop warfarin! b. check INR c. if needs reversal FFP 15mls/kgr and vitamin K 2mg slowly IV d. have bloods ready for transfusion e. active management of 3rd stage etc.
I can't see why C/S.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:36 am    Post subject: Re: Warfarin Reply with quote

EMAK wrote:
If a woman on warfarin starts to labour, CS will be the preferred mode of delivery....


Nonsense ... do I need to explain or is it self evident that blood loss is higher after CS?? Rolling Eyes

Where do you read rubbish like this ... the authors should be shot!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

may be it is typing or printing error Confused
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

EMAK wrote:
may be it is typing or printing error Confused


Let's hope so Wink

I am sure this is wrong.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nick, the authors should be shot!!! Shocked

agree with wolverine, that is the management of a woman on warfarin.

one should try n avoid traumatic delivery and operating on a patient who is fully anticoagulated unless there is a strong obstetric reason.

there is a very realistic risk of intra and post op haemorrhage and haematoma formation.

i'll say FALSE
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rpwalavalkar wrote:
nick, the authors should be shot!!! Shocked


Laughing

You go get them girl ... Cool
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:28 am    Post subject: Re: Warfarin Reply with quote

EMAK wrote:
Please I found this:

If a woman on warfarin starts to labour, CS will be the preferred mode of delivery....True....

Is that really true?..and how?? Exclamation Exclamation



I WAS ALSO SHOKED BUT READ IN TOG vol 9, LATEST THAT WARFARIN WITHIN 2 WEEKS OF LABOUR IS AN INDICATION FOR LSCS.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:35 am    Post subject: Re: Warfarin Reply with quote

mridulaben wrote:
I WAS ALSO SHOKED BUT READ IN TOG vol 9, LATEST THAT WARFARIN WITHIN 2 WEEKS OF LABOUR IS AN INDICATION FOR LSCS.


Interesting ... looks like we need to do some deeper investigation Wink

Please try not to shout mridulaben. Shouting refers to the use of CAPITALS! Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thinking of the high INR that the baby might have? avoid traumatic delivery? But even with known thrombocytopenic fetuses there are studies (I think from Netherlands for babies with alloimune thrombocytopenia) that vaginal birth does not increase the risk of bleeding!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly - the chance of an intracranial event in compromised fetuses is not necessarily improved by caesarean which itself can be difficult.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so what is the conclusion? Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say False. Does the TOG give any explanation why?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm saying false too
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry Nick for the anger. I did not mean thatway. Actually i was Shocked & Confused when i went through the article in TOG vol 9. Actually it is given under cardiac disease in pregnancy. There is no explaination given. There is a table mentioning indications for LSCS in cardiac disease, in which they have mentioned warfarin therapy within 2 weeks. Just check it, or am i misunderstanding. Any way i also think it is False, but now what do we answer???
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