TEALE FENNING

rpwalavalkar · Teale Fenning Administrator Joined: 20 Jul 2006 Posts: 966

dear all,

with the change of curriculum, quite a few of us are struggling with 'switch or not to switch'. following is a gist of what the college has to say about it..

existing SpRs appointed before August 2007 may switch to the new curriculum.

trainees who switch to the new curriculum must switch to the full curriculum and will need to complete 2 ATSMs

trainees with a CCT date before 31 st July 2009 are strongly recommended not to switch as there may not be sufficient time to complete the two ATSMs required for the CCT.

if one does switch, one cannot use an already completed / in process SSM instead an ATSM to complete the requirement of 2 modules . SpRs staying on the old curriculum will, however, be able to undertake ATSMs when registration for the SSMs closes in December 2007.

SpRs who choose not to switch to the new curriculum will continue to be governed by the Orange Guide and they will continue in the old curriculum for the duration of their training programme.

Existing SpRs with a projected CCT date after 1 st August 2009 are recommended to switch to the new curriculum as soon as is practical.

The Gold Guide makes provision for existing SpRs to be able to switch to the new curriculum.

hope this helps!

r
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SR O&G Wessex Region

rpwalavalkar · Teale Fenning Administrator Joined: 20 Jul 2006 Posts: 966

and if you do decide to switch......

the trainee should discuss the possibility of the switch with their educational supervisor and Training Programme Director.

there should be careful consideration as to the level of the new curriculum the trainee might enter.

if agreed, the trainee should write formally to the Training Programme Director and to the Postgraduate Dean confirming their wish to change to the new curriculum

trainee's NTN will need to be modified so that the suffix “S” is added to it, indicating that the trainee was an SpR who switched.

the Postgraduate Dean will need to write to the StR/GPR with their modified NTN, ensure that this is entered onto the Postgraduate Dean's database and inform the relevant College or Faculty of the change to the NTN

all decisions to switch to the new curriculum should be taken by 31 st December 2008 at the latest.

once a decision has been taken to switch this decision is non-rescindable.

once the College is informed of the amended NTN the College will issue the trainee with a complimentary copy of the new Training Portfolio once the fill a form --- link here --- http://www.rcog.org.uk/resources/public/doc/portfolio_order_form_switch.doc

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Dr Miss. Raj Walavalkar MBBS MRCOG
TealeFenning Administrator
SR O&G Wessex Region

rpwalavalkar · Teale Fenning Administrator Joined: 20 Jul 2006 Posts: 966

i have been thinking for myself and i am thinking of not shifting.

any views anyone???

r
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Dr Miss. Raj Walavalkar MBBS MRCOG
TealeFenning Administrator
SR O&G Wessex Region

bronwyn · Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:28 pm Post subject:

I guess it depends when your CCT is Raj???
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Bronwyn Bell
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Portsmouth

hansolo · Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 3

This is how it would be perceived:

The RCOG's swithching to new curriculum, SSM's & ATSM's ruling with retroactive application to those trainees with expected end of training date beyond August 2007:

Railroading the changes down through the hapless current residents/trainees' throat and royally shafting their training. The new ruling should be applied to personnels starting their residency training August 2007 onwards. Current terms of dictat meant that for a few, some or most personnels (let's face it the RCOG is totally clueless as to the affected number) caught in transition - they are shafted, big time!

RCOG has a vision on what future attendings (consultants) should be like in the UK but without ensuring that the stakeholder were briefed, consulted and that majority share, subscribe to this vision. Imagine ACOG or RANZCOG doing what RCOG is doing in their respective geographical area - there will be outcry and hell to pay.

Most so called college tutors, educational supervisors or programme directors out there are not even aware what the hell is happening and thus being able to provide guidance to residents in their respective programme. There were too many hands involved: so called 'PMETB', 'Deanaries', & 'Schools' not to mention revenue raising monopoly monolith called the RCOG guised as a charity. I am pretty sure in everything there will be so-called 'fees' involved being charged to residents/trainees - milking them for as much as possible before they finished their training. No tax revenue raising mandate no problem - just charged the fees. Residents are meantime left to their own device - 'check the (RCOG) website' would I bet be the commonest refrain nowadays what with the ever changing goal posts and ever shifting ground rules.

I wonder how residents who went for maternity leave, voluntary overseas service, research and other worthy causes, returned only to find that because their training end point were subsequently beyond an arbitrary August 2007 cut-off they were now subject to a new curriculum dictat being applied retroactively to them. Imagine the deep discontent.

I wonder too whether those organizations (most are with unelected personnels) listed above realized how messed up training delivery in most training programmes in the UK. And now that the RCOG new curriculum dictat was rubber-stamped by PMETB without due consideration how it can be delivered across the nation... who/where can any UK residents in training turn to... I am sure for most if not all the residents caught in this sorry mess, it will be a case shut up, bend over, put up with the shafting, and say thank you as they have been. Those who escape could not careless, while those involved in implementation can only rub their hands with glee to the possible manna from the sky with a prospect of 'fees' galores come-a-rolling in. The famous Stanford Prison Experiment (1971) with a twist, not only those in power are lording it, they get paid to do it Laughing

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This is one serious grievious injustice sledge-hammered onto some of the most vulnerable group of personnels. It smacks of 'MTAS' fiasco all over again but will be un-noticed because below the radar nature of the matter as it is only affecting a group of pliant residents whose composition are mainly those of non-EU (well recognised fact that until recent times, the UK NHS are propped by mostly Indo-Pakistani physicians esp. in Obstetrics & Gynecology). Who would stand up amongst those who is responsible for the rail roading the changes willing to stand up and acknowledge to be accountable should things go south? Typical politicians strategies - spread and blur the line of accountability and responsibility for when the s**t hits the fan no one can be identified to fell on his/her sword; instead, smugly continuing with his/her live, salary and pension. Change for the sake of change is bad, any time. Organization with a memory... really?

Mean time, my sympathy,
Good luck and best wishes.