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bronwyn Guest
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:34 pm Post subject: Stress Incontinence |
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Another one to practice
A 42 year old woman presents to GOPD with a history of leaking while walking her dog
a) How would you asssess her (10)
b) Debate indications for urodynamic testing (5)
c) Urodynamics show USI. What treatment options would you discuss with her? (5) |
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Abik Century Club
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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great question bron!
Couldn't you just tell her to hire a dog-walker!!!  |
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bronwyn Guest
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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You could certainly suggest it under conservative measures for treatment!
Or tell her to buy a cat......they don't need walking  |
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Abik Century Club
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Good luck tomorrow! |
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bronwyn Guest
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks!
Thought you were skiing this week?
Was that a lie to stay at home and study like a ?! |
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Abik Century Club
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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No - skiing feb 3rd to 10th. Went to Cotswolds for family birthdays (incl. mine ) but now back to study like a
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bronwyn Guest
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY to you!!!!!!
Hope it was a blast! |
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Nick Raine-Fenning Course Director
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Abik wrote: | Couldn't you just tell her to hire a dog-walker!!!  |
I was thinking along the same lines.
Where was she leaking?
Happy Birthday Abi  _________________ "Teale Fenning Medical Education" delivering evidence-based, exam-orientated learning since 1997 |
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wolverine Century Club
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:25 am Post subject: |
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Happy birthday Abi, you made me laugh!!
But why the title is stress incontinence? Detrusor overactivity may be provoked in the view of the weeing dog....  |
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mridulaben Century Club
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 11:08 am Post subject: Re: Stress Incontinence |
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| bronwyn wrote: | Another one to practice
A 42 year old woman presents to GOPD with a history of leaking while walking her dog
a) How would you asssess her (10)
b) Debate indications for urodynamic testing (5)
c) Urodynamics show USI. What treatment options would you discuss with her? (5) |
Fall apart JOKES!! How many of u really weeeeeid after this question, especially after the 2 stem, am Let me try
Urinary incontinence is not uncommon or life threatening but embarrassing for the lady, so is much underreported. In fact has to be considered seriously as affects the quality of life.It is involuntary leakage of urine at unwanted places and time.
So start with detailed history to see in which category she belongs to. Detailed history of type of incontinence, as assctd with cough, laugh, lifting heavy wt, exercise, how many times in a day or night, urge, ability to control, affect on her quality of life, complaints regarding prolapse, excacerbating/ relieving factors, drug history, sexual dysfunction, drinking habits, post void dribble, chr. cough, constipation, pelvic surgery, damage to pelvic floor during child birth
Examination to rule out pregnancy, abdominal or pelvic mass. Thorough assessment of pelvic floor, bimanual exam., P/S to detect any defects inant. or post. compt, check for leakage at coughing. examine in both supine& upright. Also check for senses and voluntary pelvic floor muscle contraction, anal wink reflex. I/V includes Urine M/C, blood sugar, frequency-volume chart, urodynamic testing, PAD TEST???
Indications for UDS includes multiple urinary symptoms i.e urge incontinence, stress incont., frequency, voiding disorder, prior to bladder neck surgery, previous unsuccessful continence surgery, neuropathic bladder disorder
Uroflowmetry detects the flow rate, normal is more than 15ml/s for 150 ml. It is simple, non invasive easy to perform. Mainly where voiding disorder is suspeted, not particularly helpfu in diagnosis of incontinence, nor particularly helpful in predicting outcome of surgery.When combined with USG for reidual urine provides information on efficiency of emptying
Cystometry is measurement of pressure-vol relationship. Gives the type of incontinece & certainly surgical treat. should not be considered without urodynamic assessment. It is invasive , but does'nt need antibiotic cover, takes about 30 mins. Few centres now offer ambulatory urodynamics which is more physiological and diagnosis better than routine, part. helpful in detrusor overactivity. Videourodynamics involves use of contrast media and so offers facility for anatomical structure, bladder morphology, function of bladder neck, bladder base support, VUR. It is part. helpful in complex cases.
UPPM gives relationship bet. intravesical & uretheral pressure. It can assess ability of urethera to exert a positive closure preesure to prevent leakage, helps in planning appropriate intervention surgically
Conservative M/G- Pelvic floor exercises, biofeedback, electrical stimulation, vaginal cones, urethral devices
Pharmacological- DULOXETINE
Surgical- Colposuspension( Burch. MMK), laparoscopic colpo, TVT, Sling surgery, TOT, Periurethral inj.
Few details with success rates, C/Ps to be mentioned |
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Abik Century Club
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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Great answer!
And thanks for all the Happy Birthdays - I had a lovely day.
I would add in assessment her fertility wishes - I know she is only 42 but may be wanting a child / further children and obviuosly this would significantly affect management.
Anal wink reflex?? - I've missed that one!!
Indications for urodynamics now have been narrowed by the guidelines to non-response to anti-cholinergics or planned surgical procedure for GSI. As far as I am aware the evidence for UDS prior to surgical correction of GSI is limited. The main indications are for exclusion of women with poor flow rates to try to reduce those at risk of long-term bladder dysfunction/catheterisation post surgery. I'm not sure, however, that UDS do this to a significant degree.
Duloxetine has now been sidelined as it doesn't seem to work! |
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mridulaben Century Club
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 10:35 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks abik, was not aware of Duloxetine. Latest guidelines still mention it , will check. |
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wolverine Century Club
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Latest guidlines dispute duloxetine as first line treatment in USI but could be given second line in women who prefer medical from surgical or are not suitable for surgical (young with uncompleted families? frail elderly?) But don't forget! This is a NICE guideline (National Institute of Clinical Economics) |
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Nick Raine-Fenning Course Director
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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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This is a good question and an even better debate - I've learnt a lot!
This came up or similar in the EMQ and I think you are due a urogynae question. I think the role of UDs is an excellent point to debate and one most people would fall down on if not familiar with the test and recent guidelines (that would incldue me!). _________________ "Teale Fenning Medical Education" delivering evidence-based, exam-orientated learning since 1997 |
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mridulaben Century Club
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:22 am Post subject: |
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1. Guidelines r not clear about, UDS before Medical treatment in OAB syndrome. They just mention not indicated before conservative treatment. Can somebody clear my doubt.
2. In Colposuspension procedures, or TVT in GSI, is one of the principles behind surgery, increased uretheral resistance also besides correction of position of bladder neck? |
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Nick Raine-Fenning Course Director
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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I am no urogynaecologist but ...
| mridulaben wrote: | | 1. Guidelines r not clear about, UDS before Medical treatment in OAB syndrome. They just mention not indicated before conservative treatment. Can somebody clear my doubt? |
I see no reason why they are needed prior to anything but surgical intervention. If they work and the patient is happy - everyone is happy!
| mridulaben wrote: | | 2. In Colposuspension procedures, or TVT in GSI, is one of the principles behind surgery, increased uretheral resistance also besides correction of position of bladder neck? |
Yes and yes
Repositioning of the bladder neck / utertho-vesicle angle is the key however.
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mridulaben Century Club
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 10:45 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks nick |
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