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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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1. It would be true if it was for HPV-16
2. Stage Ia2 risk for pelvic lymphnodes involvement is 5% therefore lymphadenectomy is adviced
3. just true
4. just true
5. the 5-year survival rate is the same between surgery and chemo-radio
6. The wrong bit in this otherwise correct statement is the LSCS. Classical section is adviced Evil or Very Mad Razz



greetings O king of Onco Wink

i'm starting my onco revision this weekend even if it kills me Exclamation Mad
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wolverine wrote:
The wrong bit in this otherwise correct statement is the LSCS. Classical section is adviced Evil or Very Mad Razz

Agreed.
The other reason I thought it may be false is that in very early disease you can wait for a little more lung maturity (maybe 34 weeks) before you deliver. Depends what you (or the person who set the silly question!)mean by early disease Wolverine Laughing
Another spanner in the works: does she really need a hysterectomy if it's very early disease.....what about delivery then a redical trachelectomy in very early stages.
Just being Twisted Evil 's advocate!!!
Sure is false then I suppose Wink

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wolverine wrote:
6. The wrong bit in this otherwise correct statement is the LSCS. Classical section is adviced Evil or Very Mad Razz


Excellent question ... this is true RCOG style ... well done Wolverine.

This proves the importance of reading the question carefully in every situation and evaluating the importance of every single word.

We teach this religiously on every single one of our courses and yet I still make mistakes having preached this concept for almost 10 years Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well done Bronwyn ... top marks Laughing

You raise some good points ...

bronwyn wrote:
The other reason I thought it may be false is that in very early disease you can wait for a little more lung maturity (maybe 34 weeks) before you deliver. Depends what you (or the person who set the silly question!)mean by early disease Wolverine Laughing


Is this right? I have not read up about this since my Part 2 and that was not yesterday Wink


bronwyn wrote:
Another spanner in the works: does she really need a hysterectomy if it's very early disease.....what about delivery then a redical trachelectomy in very early stages.
Just being Twisted Evil 's advocate!!!
Sure is false then I suppose Wink


I would strongly advise you to stay miles away from trachelectomy unless speficially asked about it in the OSCE. In any essay question put it at the very end as a remote possibility unsuitable for the vast majority of women and something that would have to be discussed in conjunction with an experienced gynae-oncologist. Not sure if we have any data on trachelectomy and pregnancy anyway.

It's a bit like rape, abuse, childhood cancer etc ... put this stuff at the end in small print and in italics!!! OK that is an exaggerattion but you get my point Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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1 staging of cervical Ca requires MRI imaging

It would be true if it was for HPV-16


What do you mean??

How does HPV relate to MRI?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nick. As you noticed I posted the topic number 100! What do I get? Laughing Cool Rolling Eyes


A big group hug Laughing Laughing

Good man ... you like your statistics I see and are soon to join the Century Club!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nick Raine-Fenning wrote:
wolverine wrote:
1 staging of cervical Ca requires MRI imaging

It would be true if it was for HPV-16

What do you mean??

How does HPV relate to MRI?


Apologies. That was the answer of the 1st question of the other group "premalignant changes". I was just waiting to see who is going to spot it first! But staging is Basically clinical and requires an EUA and cystoscopy/rectosigmoidoscopy and not an MRI therefore false!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Depends what you (or the person who set the silly question!)mean by early disease Wolverine
It was me bron who made that silly question Crying or Very sad
Early I meant stage I and IIa (when surgery is adviced). And apart from Ia1 (microinvasion) where cone excision may sufice, for all the ather stages hysterectomy with pelvic lymphadenectomy is better adviced. All the other modalities are currently under evaluation as Nick said.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Early I meant stage I and IIa (when surgery is adviced). And apart from Ia1 (microinvasion) where cone excision may sufice, for all the ather stages hysterectomy with pelvic lymphadenectomy is better adviced.


Is that right? What about big Ib2's?


wolverine wrote:
Apologies. That was the answer of the 1st question of the other group "premalignant changes". I was just waiting to see who is going to spot it first! But staging is Basically clinical and requires an EUA and cystoscopy/rectosigmoidoscopy and not an MRI therefore false!


Quite!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It was me bron who made that silly question Crying or Very sad

Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed

Fantastic question then if it comes from you Wink Keep them coming!
And as Nick says, a typical RCOG one, necessitating reading, re-reading and reading again!!!

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btw Wolverine, were you the man in blue scrubs at Fridays teaching? Have just clicked who you are if it is you!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes Bron that was me! Seems like we'll be seeing each other a lot in Portsmouth..
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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btw Wolverine, were you the man in blue scrubs at Fridays teaching? Have just clicked who you are if it is you!


Yes he was the handsome one in the corner who looks like Hugh Jackman but sprouts body hair and inter-phalangeal blades when angry - do not cross him Laughing

Looks like you guys have a great bunch of people down on the South coast. Nice part of the world and many fond memories for me Cool
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Seems like we'll be seeing each other a lot in Portsmouth..


Excellent! Hope you're as much fun as our local greek god in Poole, Prof AA

Better knock this exam on it's head....no time for studying in Portsmouth I believe Rolling Eyes

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Yes he was the handsome one in the corner who looks like Hugh Jackman but sprouts body hair and inter-phalangeal blades when angry - do not cross him

Laughing Laughing Laughing I will do my best to keep him Cool & Very Happy
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