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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey,

i'm missing the interaction too.

Mad Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Click here for suggestions on how you could feed your addiction. Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish I'll be there, but the more I'm thinking about it the more pessimistic I get..
Anyway, I'm missing the forum too and whatever happens I wanted to say a big Thank You for making revising a nice experience! And it's all thanks to you Nick and your brilliant idea! Thanks again.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This Forum has developed because everybody contributes and that is what is important. I play a small part but this would not work without you guys.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Am missing the forum too - trying to stay away as the more I think about the exam the worse I feel!!
Thanks to everyone who took part - it's been great fun.
And a message to all those who I know are watching but not joining in -
you need to get involved, you will enjoy it and increase your chances of passing the exam, come on in - the water's lovely!!
Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've collated a few e-mails (one in particular Wink ) and phone calls and come up with the following breakdown of the Essays:


OBSTETRIC PAPER

1. A woman attends delivery suite at 37 weeks gestation with light vagianl bleeding. She has had two previous cesareans and an earlier ultrasound scan had shown a low-lying placenta.
- Describe your initial assessment? (10 marks)
- Justify your investigations. (7 marks)
- What specific risks do you need to tell her before her ceasarean this time? (3 marks)

2. 14% of maternal deaths are related to violence in the home.
- What would make you alerted to a sufferer? (7 marks)
- How can we increase detection rates? (7 marks)
- If a case is detected, what would your management options be? (6 marks)

3. A previously healthy 25-year old primip has just delivered a stillbirth at term.
- What investigations will you do? (11 marks)
- What management is necessary prior to her discharge from the ward? (9 marks)

4. You are crash-bleeped to the postnatal ward where a previously healthy 32-year old woman who has delivered her fourth baby normally is complaining of acute severe chest pain and shortness of breath.
- Justify your initial assessment. (10 marks)
- What bedside investigations will further develop your differential diagnosis? (3 marks)
- What will be your on-going management? (7 marks)


GYNAECOLOGY PAPER

5. A 32-year old woman with two children gives a 15-month history of low abdominal pain.
- What are the differential diagnoses and the features of these? (10 marks)
- What are the principles of management? (10 marks)

6. A 19-year old who has been sexually active for the past three months and having unprotected sexual intercourse comes to you concerned about her risk of an unwanted pregnancy.
- What aspects of history and examination are important when discussing her options? (12 marks)
- What are the pros and cons of currently available emergency contraception? (8 marks)

7. With respect to gynaecological oncology.
- What are the principles of palliative care? (6 marks)
- What methods of pain relief are available? (5 marks)
- What other symptoms may present and how can these be alleviated? (9 marks)

8. A woman comes to clinic 14 days after a total abdominal hysterectomy for fibroids. She is loosing urine per vaginum and on speculum examination you see urine coming from the vaginal vault.
- What sites may the urine be coming from? (4 marks)
- How may they have been damaged? (4 marks)
- What aspects of the history (3 marks) and investigation (4 marks) will lead to localising the site and to the cause of the damage?
- What are the management options? (5 marks)


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the third stem in the first obs essay was more like " what intraop complications would you counsel her about"
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

more about consent for intra op complication
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Makes sense I guess because after 2 caesarean sections the longterm risks are pretty much covered i.e. no role for vaginal delivery, increased risk of uterine rupture, morbidly adherent placentae etc.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the third stem of the gyn question about urinary fistula... was something different... I cant recall what exactly was it Question will let you know.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whatever it was several people have stressed that examination was not involved.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:13 am    Post subject: Reflections on the March 2007 Reply with quote

Dear Friends,
Guess i was not a regular member of your nice interaction group, yet would like to make these comments on the exam.

1. As most of us do agree, the short essays were just fine, the bouncers were of course the Domestic violence and the pallative care questions, yet we did expect a "wild card " paper.
the fistula question was rather a good brain storming exercise, yet how this could be translated on the marking scheme is another question.
2. MCQs: roughly 25% from past papers, yet too much numbers, and yes heavy stress on national publications CEMACH and HFEA and others, like ever you can not tell for sure how did it go.

3. EMQs: Challenging, sometimes tricky, and potentially "solvable" , if only we could have an extra 15 minutes with this paper, I wonder why does the college want us to make a decision on the managment of 70 y incontinent lady in under 90 seconds, it would be imprudent to act on this pace in real life.
Still many tricks ( sometimes unjustifiable): for instance the q about the 10 month amenorrhoea, while we were thinking of PCOS , NCAH , 2 of the answers turn out to be pregnancy and ovulation !!! and with no b hCG included in the list , who would diagnose pregnancy from such a complicated hormonal assay whilest a urinary hCG should be the first investigation to order, still good mental exercise!!
Similarly, I think the q about TTT late in third trimester giving you all intervention options ( laser ablation of connecting vessels, amniocenesis, etc,) while the option would rather to deliver.
The statistics question was rather silly.

Note:
No appearance of clinical risk management or clinical governance in the whole 3 sections of the exam, wait for this in the osce!!!
Domestic violence Q came from the last progress issue.
Input of TOG in the topics of the essays is nearly neglicable!!! Strange!!!
Similarly no appearance of the HPV vaccine , a hot topic that should have appeared at least in the mcsqs instead of crukenberg tumours and recovery from anaestehseia
I am not evaluating the exam, those at the college sure knows best what do they want, I am just trying to figure out how is the tides going.

Yet on the whole! Some challenging 7 hours, hope we are up to the challange.

Regards to u Nick
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 8:27 am    Post subject: Re: Reflections on the March 2007 Reply with quote

ventose wrote:
Dear Friends,
Guess i was not a regular member of your nice interaction group, yet would like to make these comments on the exam.


Hi ventose - please do not let your number of posts affect your decision to get interactive. One bst is better than none and everybodys comments / impressions / advice is welcome. You have proved that as you make some interesting and valid points ...


ventose wrote:
the fistula question was rather a good brain storming exercise, yet how this could be translated on the marking scheme is another question.


In a way this is a good thing especially for Teale-Fenningers (I think Xerxes I or Abi coined that phrase and it seems to have stuck Wink ) as it goes back to the old style of essay. Brainstorming, bubbling, call it what you will, is more important than ever as you have to be extremely careful before you put pen to paper.


ventose wrote:
3. EMQs: Challenging, sometimes tricky, and potentially "solvable", if only we could have an extra 15 minutes with this paper, I wonder why does the college want us to make a decision on the managment of 70 y incontinent lady in under 90 seconds, it would be imprudent to act on this pace in real life.


You have summarised everyone's opinion on this. More time seems to be needed. I would be interested to know if the people from the ABC Course and EMQ Solutions also ran out of time as we practised a away of getting through the paper in good time and no one ran out of time in the mock exams on the ABC Course.


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Still many tricks ( sometimes unjustifiable): ..... who would diagnose pregnancy from such a complicated hormonal assay .... still good mental exercise!!
Similarly, I think the q about TTT late in third trimester giving you all intervention options ( laser ablation of connecting vessels, amniocenesis, etc,) while the option would rather to deliver.



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Note: No appearance of clinical risk management or clinical governance in the whole 3 sections of the exam, wait for this in the osce!!!



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Domestic violence Q came from the last progress issue.
Input of TOG in the topics of the essays is nearly neglicable!!! Strange!!!


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Similarly no appearance of the HPV vaccine , a hot topic that should have appeared at least in the mcsqs instead of crukenberg tumours and recovery from anaestehseia

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Abik wrote:
come on in - the water's lovely!! Laughing


I am swimming alone while you are home and dry Confused, well not completely alone, Nick -the lifeguard- is still there!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:04 am    Post subject: hello! Reply with quote

dear all,
i have been around for a while, like your interactive discussion so much..however, afraid to take part as my english and obgyn knowledge is so poor Embarassed . i have learnt and still learning a lot from this forum.
thank you all
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 4:19 pm    Post subject: Re: hello! Reply with quote

benz wrote:
dear all,
i have been around for a while, like your interactive discussion so much..however, afraid to take part as my english and obgyn knowledge is so poor


Hi Benz - never worry about things like that - make a few posts and you will see how quickly you will improve.


benz wrote:
i have learnt and still learning a lot from this forum.
thank you all


And that is the main thing Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 3:52 am    Post subject: hello Reply with quote

Sorry for not keeping in touch, was bit busy with work. All the best for tommorrow to all of us.
Too late for the feedback!!!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Allah Kareem
Thanks mridulaben
En sha allah Khair
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